uh-oh...

[framlingem]

For those of you who aren't aware, I'm a mod on a yahoogroup of about three thousand people. Since it's a group for INFPs and therefore introverts, there's only about twenty active members at any one time.

There's six other mods, but they're all off finding themselves :p (MBTI joke! Whoot!) Actually, one just got married and is besotted, another's gone back to school, I don't know WHAT's going on with Mark, and Sherrin's recovering from major surgery.

This leaves me. The youngest mod. The quiet, behind-the-scenes-spam-deleting-mod. (Three of our mods are actually ENFPs. This all makes sense, somehow...)

And today we got religious oriented spam: "Christmas 2003 - a discussion on our Lord Jesus Christ"

Deleted.

But oh, dear, it started a debate, and one of the list members (while a very good person) is a very cynical nihilist (all religion is bad and logically flawed, ergo anyone who believes this *beep* is an idiot), and one's a pagan, and another's a Baptist... *sigh* And all watched over by me, a scientific pantheist who's listed on the Canadian census as a Jedi and not as a joke, either... (The Force corresponds very closely to my theory of the universe, so I adopted it.)

It's been very interesting so far, and nobody's gotten openly angry, but again, this is an introvert list and someone got pretty quiet. I've sent out emails to the one who's gone quiet (to make sure she's okay) and to the cynic (to remind him that it's okay to argue as bluntly as he likes to with me, because I don't personally mind, but there are some people on the list who are a whole lot more sensitive, and to be careful.)

*worries*

But I have to go to bed soon, and they're all in a different timezone, and normally that's okay because the mods are very spread out geographically, but right now it's just me.

It's a good list, I think the last time we had to really work was a year ago.

But this is SUCH a touchy issue.

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[ladyshrew.livejournal.com]

Just be glad it's not an INTP list. I was on that for the summer, and it got to be too much. Everyone talks all the time (it's the NT side... the introvertedness fades away when you deal w/ comps, I think), and debates *never* end. o_O

-Me

[framlingem.livejournal.com]

I'm pretty sure Cynic's more T than F, at any rate. I'm also aware that he is not a happy person and has been hurt very badly, and I'm worried about him. He only ever shows up any more when there's a debate on some hot topic that he has a very, very strong opinion on, and his opinion is RIGHT and he's... forceful.

Which doesn't go down on an INFP list where most opinion posts are prefaced with "Ok, I don't want to offend anyone and I apologize in advance" and end with "Just my .02." It's a stereotype... but it's true. We're psychology's biggest wusses.

[ladyshrew.livejournal.com]

LOL! I was going to say the cynic sounded more like an NT, actually.

And INFPs are not wusses; they just don't like offending ppl. :-P

-Me

[framlingem.livejournal.com]

Nah - we're also most likely to be self-deprecating, so yeah, we're wusses. Cynic is definitely more T than F. We've been conversing.

I think I've managed to get his evangelizing (which is entirely the wrong term by definition! but the only one that really fits) confined to me, offlist, which is okay because I can handle it.

[ladyshrew.livejournal.com]

Well, that's good. And deep down, INTPs are wusses too, or at least, I am. :-P

INTJs are also wusses (much as I love them). As masterminds, they send everyone else out to do the dirty-work. ;-)

-Me

[framlingem.livejournal.com]

LOL!

I love MBTI humour.

Behold! A glass full of sparkling, life-giving nectar, in my opinion!

Sez the INFP when asked the half-empty/full question,.

[ladyshrew.livejournal.com]

lol! There's some great MBTI humour linked in my bio. ;-)

-Me

[framlingem.livejournal.com]

Really? ooooh. *runs to look* Ah yes, I've seen that one. :p It makes the round on the INFP lists about every six months as membership changes. That INFP one's so apt - do you have any idea how many stories I have unfinished?

[ladyshrew.livejournal.com]

LOL! Sorry it wasn't something new. ;-) But it craaaacks me uuuuuuuuuuuuuuup! hehe

The INTP one is so true too. I just want to do everything my way, because, in my head, it's better! hehe

-Me

[framlingem.livejournal.com]

Teehee :) My I and E are the closest - I'm definitely an I, but I do have a strongly developed E - so not only do I not finish things, but I whoa check out the moon do them in fits and

[ladyshrew.livejournal.com]

LOL! I'm definitely an Introvert, but I've developed my communication skills lately, at least in the sense that I let my NT take over and get carried away about things. ;-) My P is my lowest score, but it really has not helped my organization... at all.

-Me

[framlingem.livejournal.com]

I could say that I have a very large P-ness... but I won't.

I'm very, very much NFP (scores in the eighties...)... nothing ever gets done. *sigh*

[ladyshrew.livejournal.com]

LOL! ::hugs:: I hear ya there. The only area where you can tell my P is low is when I snark. I love snarking, which is somewhat NT, but I think it's also more likely when you have a little J in you. It's also helped me develop a facade for dealing with people. I'd really like it to help me with basic organization and motivation though. Damn P. :-P

-Me

[framlingem.livejournal.com]

Oh Gods, it's started up again... except now I'm getting offlist emails accusing me of censorship and bias (how the hell can I be biased if I put EVERYONE INVOLVED, EVEN THE ONES WHO GOT HURT on moderation? Which I did precisely so that I wouldn't be accused of bias?)

I didn't even have to inform them they were being moderated. *whimper* I did, because otherwise that's dishonest.

*whimpers more* I want the other mods to reassure me... I really don't think I'm going about this wrong... especially since (as the moderatees have been informed) it's only for twenty-four hours to let things cool off a little.

People are bringing up the free speech amendment... I'm *this close* to pointing out that I am not bound by the American constitution, as I'm Canadian...

Gah.

Gah gah gah gah gah....

[ladyshrew.livejournal.com]

Good grief. Free speech doesn't apply on a mailing list anyway. You have the right to say whatever you damn please; doesn't mean people are going to publish it/allow it on their mailing list.

And you're doing it for decent reasons too. Idiots.

-Me

[framlingem.livejournal.com]

"INFPs and interested guests welcomed. There is no limit to what topics can be discussed. Humor and playfulness are prime agendas and friendly exchange of thought and information is welcomed. Bring your open mind and a warm heart.

This is a moderated list to ensure the integrity of our community. "

(that would be the group description. It's infp-general yahoogroup - would you mind siging up temporarily to tell me if I went way overboard?)

FRIENDLY exchange of thought... and it does say clearly that it's a moderated list, even if basic group settings are to unmoderated (which, when someone poiinted that out, I explained - it just means that only special cases need to be moderated. Otherwise the damned spam that started the whole debacke wouldn't have gotten through in the first place. Fuckie fuck.)

[ladyshrew.livejournal.com]

Damn. They're just being stupid. Heading there now.

I've never seen a legion of angry INFPs though... It seems almost contradictory! ;-)

-Me

[framlingem.livejournal.com]

fifty kilotons on a parsec-long fuse... we just tend to implode rather than explode, so nobody notices. We're also good actors...

Thank you.